No reference Supra (3rd project ever ;) )

[Sk3ptic]

okay... had lots of things goin on so i had to dodge this thing for a while...
didn't do much to it, but i lost vray :/
added a toyota emblem... (as good as i could possibly do without reference )
and added the mirrors. im still having trouble rendering... im not sure how to make
the headlights light up (prolly have a wrong glass mat )

[staticrain03]

well it looks ok without refs but i suggest u remodel the supra after ur done doing what ever u doing right now.. then u can compare ur models....

also ill be starting a supra soon so i can show u how its done lol

[Sk3ptic]

i still need advice on how to make the headlights light up... using mental ray
any help is greatly appreciated
and ill probably remodel a stock supra after this...

[staticrain03]

sorry buddy i have no clue... search online somewhere im sure theres one some where

[LOST]

Modelling looks nice so far. Keep it goin'!

[mpfive]

was the toyota emblem done with no reference too? lol

[Sk3ptic]

yep
i drew the original image on paint
again... very inaccurate
here it is

[Dauer]

Why not just get on google and search "toyota logo"; you can usually find pretty hi-res versions.

[Sk3ptic]

cause i don't want to use references

[marty-bett]

Are you trying to do it from memory then? like i respect ur wishes of making it from no references becoz u didnt like the shape but now it seems u are doing it to see how good ur memory of it is? Just remember this: how r u meant to sketch a tree if you havent seen that particular tree in ages and are doing it from memory?

[skb875]

Originally Posted by marty-bett

Are you trying to do it from memory then? like i respect ur wishes of making it from no references becoz u didnt like the shape but now it seems u are doing it to see how good ur memory of it is? Just remember this: how r u meant to sketch a tree if you havent seen that particular tree in ages and are doing it from memory?

Yep, exactly true.

It's like you're scared to learn more, so you want an excuse why it isn't 100% accurate.

If you weren't using blueprints and called it a concept car, then I could respect that more, but not using ref. isn't good because you can't exactly learn from it.

[mpfive]

actually, i like the idea of using blueprints and no reference, if we had a number of people model the same car with no reference, but depend on blueprints, then i'm sure we would quiet the variety because each person may interpet the lines different, somebody may thing a line makes a panel stick out, another may think the line makes the panel bend in.. so you see? its a pretty cool idea

[Sk3ptic]

Originally Posted by skb875

Yep, exactly true.

It's like you're scared to learn more, so you want an excuse why it isn't 100% accurate.

If you weren't using blueprints and called it a concept car, then I could respect that more, but not using ref. isn't good because you can't exactly learn from it.

alright... if u think of it the way i do... im learning a hell of a lot... even without references...
im setting a goal for myself either way
whethter the goal is to perfectly match a reference picture... or try to model a different version (from memory) thats more appealing to myself.... its still a goal, and i AM learning.
if you see the difference between my first model... and this one (which is the 3rd by the way)
you could DEFFINITELY tell that i've learned a lot.

all i ask of you guys, is to comment on cleanliness and overall appearance.
negative comments are appreciated as well, as long as you tell me what i can do to make it better.
(setting yet another goal )


@mpfive... i would like to see that its a cool idea

[skb875]

I don't want to start an argument or anything, but found it sort of odd that of all the things you can try going without, you choose reference.
Do whatever you want, I honestly couldn't care less, just trying to help you out.

A crit I can notice right away is it seems parts of your car are too round.

I'd wait for a reply from RedStar, I'm sure he'll have something as he has modeled this car like *can't even count that high*

[Sk3ptic]

whatever... i guess ill just finish it on my own time, and start a new one (with reference)
cause apparently im offending some of u guys :/ by not using references :/
i still don't understand why... but its a bit too late to make this one accurate

[RedStar]

Haha skb I am staying away from this topic. We already had this talk with him when he started the car and i'll leave it at that.

[Sk3ptic]

yet you still manage to come in here and read his post??
can someone just please tell my why u guys are offended by my model??
so i know not to do whatever i did again???

[RedStar]

I am an admin, its my responsibility to come into topics and make sure things are in order. Sorry for doing what I should.

[Dr. Feelgood]

Guys, c'mon...SMCars.net is meant to be a friendly place to be. Let's try and stay away from the whole 'accuracy' thing because that's obviously what he's not trying to do.

Sk3ptic, I think you've done a fantastic job of recalling a Toyota Supra from memory. I think the only thing that needs some work are you materials, but other than that, she's come a long way since it's beginning.

Just remember that no-matter what you model, and how you model something, your knowledge grows no-matter what, and that's what counts :-)

[Sk3ptic]

whatever dude... apparently you don't want to help me out.. and all u wanted to do b4 is shoot me and my model down
only a couple people have actually given me useful criticism and comments... and you, an amdin, dont seem to wanna help. you might as well delete this topic... im not gonna update this car no more, im gonna start a new one :?