Pierce-Arrow Silver Arrow ( 1933 )

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  1. kosso_olli

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    Top and side view only. What a pity.

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    I actually saw one of these sedans in a driveway here in california, if I see it again I will try to snap some shots....last time I was without my camera :(
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    Really?

    You have to make some perfect pictures from the front, side and back. I will try to make a print then, I am sure a lot of other people here would like to have them...
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    I will keep my eyes open for this one....when I was younger i used to work near classic restoration shops and I have seen some really wonderful old cars from packards to dusenbergs. I even saw one of the last pierce arrows ever built...collecting dust in a shop in Marin, Ca.
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    There also exist some patents for the front end of the car. Also the front/back view images are not rare. You can easily get them ether from internet or from a book.
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    Could you tell me the patent number, or can you post the images?
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    Just for info, the 1933 Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow is available as a 1:18 scale model by signature Models. any out there interested can have a 3d version for display.
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    The Danbury Mint made them in 1/24th scale and are now out of production. They have been reissued several times so are not uncommon and can easily be found on eBay. Ettore
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    Don't remember but I'll look for it.

    Also I have better images of the car than the patent drawings. I can scan them for you, if you serious about making the drawings ;-)
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    Yes, I would really like to draw this one.
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    here are some photos I found.

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    I haven't found all the patents yet.
    But here's the reference for the radiator: Des.89,345. I think you should type in D89,345 when using US Patent Office webpage.
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    Here's some material for your project.

    I would start drawing from known dimensions, like wheelbase, front track, rear track, size of the wheels, overall length, width, height, etc. But keep in mind that these data may be wrong even in the books, thus one should be rather critical about information found on the net, especially if no references are given.

    I have some of the dimensions and other data, and can post if you need it.

    Also, all photos have shapes distorted, the one I've posted is good, but not perfect. I found a nice side view photo taken in the plane of front wheels, thus the front part has *almost* no distortions. I'll scan and post it later.

    Also, the actual cars were built on a 137 inch wheelbase (if I remember it correctly), but the original design was made for a 8-inch longer wheelbase. Thus the rear seat had to be placed above the rear axle, and roof had to be raised. This explains the odd shape of the rear window. I'm not sure which version of the car the patent drawings represent (and there is another version of them) The combination image is made to show how inaccurate are the patent drawings in fact are ;-)

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    Wow, thanks for the information! Please post everything you got.
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    I was wrong about the wheelbase it was 139 inches.

    Here's some data for your project:
    Wheelbase: 3530 mm (139 in)
    Front track: 1500 mm (59 in)
    Rear track 1560 mm (61.5 in)
    Wheels and tyres: 7.50 x 17 in.

    Attached is also a possibly useful sideview.

    Good luck with drawing!

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    Thank you very much. i can't say when this will be finished, but I will keep you updated.

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